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Mynydd Newydd Colliery

 

Location: Latitude: 51.650447, Longitude: -3.967202 or Map Grid Reference: SS6399996461

 

The colliery worked the 2, 3, 5 & 6 foot coal seams.

 

With the dangerous work and after a number of deaths, there was felt a need for prayer meetings before work.

The colliery was one of few in the World, which had a regular Monday Morning religious service at both underground Chapels

in the 5 ft. seam at 348 feet and 6 ft. seam at 774 feet below the surface.

 

Showing part of the Mineral Railway crossing Heol Gwyrosydd, Penlan.

Mynydd Newydd Colliery, reproduced from: OS Map 1916

A great deal of Swansea Council housing was being built at the end of the 1945 war onwards. The recenlty built Tudno Place off Heol Gwyrosydd can be seen, with what would have been the old railway crossing in the upper right-hand corner of the development.

Mynydd Newydd Colliery 1945 Google Earth.

Mynydd Newydd Colliery from OS Map 1916

mynydd newydd colliery 1945 google earth
   
Mynydd Newydd Colliery BBC Religious Service photo 1929
mynydd newydd colliery 2009 google earth

Image information: Broadcasting The Service Sunday Oct 13 - 1929

In The Chapel Down, Mynydd Newydd Pit. (This was in the 5 foot seam).

The miners in the photo took part in a *BBC religious broadcast.

Image permission acknowledged: David Roberts, Bryngold Books

Mynydd Newydd Colliery 2009 Google Earth

The entrance to the colliery for today's view would be between,

Broughton Avenue & Heol Pen-Tir Garw, Mynydd Newydd Road.

 

blue pinS = Shaft

red pin B = Boilers

black pin T.P = Tudno Place, Penlan

yellow = Pit Mineral Railway (SS 6387 9648 to SS 6611 9576)

The image shows the east end joining Penfilia Road, Brynhyfryd.

The railway actually carried on down to the Swansea canal at Landore a total distance 1 1/2 miles.

 

"Mynydd Newydd" meaning "New Mountain" source Google Translate.

 

 

QUOTE

 

 

" Mynydd Newydd is a colliery be-

longing to Messers. Vivian an Sons, and

situate on a barren hilltop. My visit was

on a tempesuous day, an as I took advan-

tage of the facilities afforded by a surprising and novel means of locomotion, I met with what is conveniently termed "an experience." To save the trudge of a couple of miles up

the steep hillside above that grim suburb of Swansea, Landore, the visitory ensconces him-self in one of a string of empty iron coal

trains. This suddenly starts up the steep

hillside with tremendous velocity, drawn by

a steel cable from a winding-drum three quarters of a mil above. About the middle

of you wild flight skywards you pass a

heavily-laden railway truck coming down on

 

the other track. It is your motor, for it is

by its weight that you are taken upwards in

a series of startling jumps. The cable glides over the big iron pulleys fixed in the middle

of the track, sometimes in the groove, sometimes out, grinding and roaring past obstructions, or giving the wheels sudden impulses, and the newcomer feels that his

life is not worth a moment's purchase till

he finds himself on terra firma at the

winding-house above.

Here, before a roaring fire, and in the

midst of a group of waiting colliers who are going up to the pit's mouth, you await the departure of the next engine pitwards, and bing hauled aboard this, you cover the rest

of the distance to the pit."

 
 

 

 

 

A Visit to Mynydd Newydd

by W.Walfford Moore, 1899, (SHP)

 

 

Source

Index

Area

Date

Details

(R.L)
P69

THE COLLIERS OF THE SWANSEA.

1843

The Mine was sunk by Vivian & Company down to the five foot seam at a depth of 130 yards.

(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1844 Dec.28 Inquest on James Thomas,36, killed at Swansea Coal Co's Mynydd Newydd Colliery. John Jenkins gives evidence.
(C) H34 BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL , etc. 1844 Dec.28 Inquest at the Plough and Harrow, Pentre, near Swansea, on man killed at Mynydd Newydd Colliery.
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1845 Jan.25 Thomas Owen, William David & David Lodwick injured in explosion at Swansea Coal Company's Mynydd Newydd Colliery
(LIE) P65 A CHECKLIST OF THE PUBLICATIONS OF EVAN GRIFFITHS 1830-1867 1845 Aug 16

1st Bible purchased from Evan Griffiths' shop for the underground chapel.

*Linked to Quote below.

(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1846 May22 Mynydd Newydd explosion: David Jones,14, David Jones,12, William Lodwick,12 & John David,17, killed. Report of inquest.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1846 Aug.21 Swansea Coal Company - Mynydd Newydd Colliery, prayers held.
(C) N00 RELIGION 1846 Aug.21 Mynydd Newydd Colliery prayers: E.G.Williams,of Sketty. T.Davies, of Caersalem; E.Jacobs and D.Howell, both of Swansea.
(C) N00 RELIGION 1846 Aug.21 Religious service at Mynydd Newydd Colliery - D. Griffiths of Alltwen; Thomas, & D.Davies of Clydach.R
(C) F54 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1847 Jan.01 Accident on the tramroad from Mynydd Newydd Colliery to the canal near Landore.
(C) F54 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1847 Feb.05 Letter re danger of accidents on the railway at Landore from Mynydd Newydd Colliery.
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1849 Nov.16 William Jones, aged 15, son Thomas Jones, Caebricks, killed at Mynydd Newydd Colliery.
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1851 Dec.12 John Phillips, aged 20,killed at Mynydd Newydd Colliery near Swansea.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1858 Mar.12 Mr. Baron Bramwell, Mr Pendarvis Vivian and Mr. Daniel visit Mynydd Newydd Colliery. P5
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1858 Dec.10 Explosion of fire damp at Mynydd Newydd Colliery (owned by Swanea Coal Company) some colliers sustained burns. P4
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1860 Mar.02 Short report on Mynydd Newydd Colliery which had a fire in June 1859 (Capt. Lowery). P3.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1861 Sep.27 Letter from E.Griffiths re.morning services at Mynydd Newydd Colliery.P8
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1866 Nov.23 David Davies, Forman of sinkers,Mynydd Newydd pit,Morriston,breaks ankle in fall P5
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1867 May10 Inquest at Compass Public House, Caebricks, on Thomas Hughes, killed at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. P5
(C) D42 TRANSPORT, ROAD etc. 1867 Nov.01 Swansea police: Vivian & Sons -V- E.Brennan & C.Sheen - theft from Mynydd Newydd tramroad. P6.
(C) F52 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. John Lewis, Fireman, identifies body of his son Enoch, aged 16.
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd or Pentre colliery Llangyfelach (Vivian & Sons). Three lives lost. P6
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd or Pentre colliery, Llangfelach, owned by Vivian & Sons. 3 killed. P6
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc 1869 Apr.02 Mynydd Newydd, Llangyfelach: Joseph Mathews (38), Thomas Mathews (30) & Enoch Lewis (16), son of John Lewis, fireman, killed. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. John Knoyle, 50, Deputy night overman gives evidence.P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY,etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. John Morgan, Bryngelly, colliery foreman, witness. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. Lewis John, collier, witnes at inquest. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. Thomas E. Wales, inspector of mines, visits colliery. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery.Thomas Rees,day overman,gives evidenceP6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. William & David Humphrey, colliers, mentioned. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd Colliery. W.M.Palmer of Weig, witness. 17 yr. old son John, mentioned.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1869 Apr.02 Explosion at Mynydd Newydd or Pentre colliery Llangafelach, owned by Vivian & Sons, 3 dead. P6
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1870 Aug.26 Swansea police: Evan Davies, Trammer,Messrs. Vivian and Son, Mynydd Newydd Colliery, charged with leaving without notice. P6
(C) Q20 CRIME AND PUNISHMENT etc. 1873 Sep.05 Swansea police: David Edwards & William Williams (lads) cruelty to a horse at Vivian's Mynydd Newydd Colliery (guilty). P6
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1875 Dec.10 Accidental death recorded on David Walliams, 42, collier after fall at Mynydd Newydd Colliery (owned by Vivian & Son). P5
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1875 Dec.10 Accidental death recorded on David Williams, 42, collier, after fall at Mynydd Newydd Colliery (owned by Vivian & Son). P5
(C) Q39 CRIME AND PUNISHMENT etc. 1879 Sep.05 Inquest: At Dillwyn Arms, Brynhyfryd, on David Mathews, 13 years, died in Mynydd Newydd Colliery. P5
(C) F56 DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, etc. 1879 Dec.26 Thomas Davies, 11, of Patrick Road, Brynhyfrid, Fell under wheels of tram at Mynydd Newydd Colliery tramroad. P4
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc. 1899 Mar.31 "The Coal Miners' Prayer", sent by Elizabeth Seaton, of Kent, re the underground chapel at Mynydd Newydd Colliery, Swansea.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.04 Conflict between police & strikers at Mynydd Newydd Pentre collieries, Fforestfach. Attacks on non-unionists.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc 1902 Sep.05 Strike at Mynydd Newydd Colliery Fforestfach: Men set out their demands to Mr. Naysmith, manager. Assault on non-unionist.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT,, etc 1902 Sep.06 Strikers from Mynydd Newydd Colliery attack police (under Sgt Hopkins) escorting workers home at Brynhyfryd and Landore.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery: strike: Margaret Watts, Llangafelach, alleged to have assaulted David James, Colliery watchman.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery: striking miners try to influence non-striking miners at P.Richards' Weig Fawr Colliery, Cockett.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: Demonstration by striking miners held at Cockett - Fforestfach fife & drum band attend.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: John Hughes, underground overman, gives evidence against Thomas Davies & David John Davies.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: Thomas Roberts, colliery watchman claims to have been struck by a thrown clod.
(C) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike:To prevent intimidation Messrs Vivian & Sons give non-union men food & beds at colliery.
(C) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Fforestfach fife & drum band attend Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: Demonstration by striking miners held at Cockett.
(C) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery: stike: Margaret Watts, Llangafelach, alleged to have assaulated David James, colliery watchman.
(C) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery: striking miners try to influence non-striking miners at P.Richards' Weig Fawr Colliery, Cockett.
(C) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd colliery strike: Demonstratin by striking miners held at Cockett - Fforestfach fife & drum band attend.
(C) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: Thomas Roberts, colliery watchman claims to have been struck by a thrown clod.
(C) Q18 CRIME AND PUNISHMENT etc. 1902 Sep.12 Mynydd Newydd Colliery: Strike: Margaret Watts, Llangafelach, alleged to have assaulted David James, colliery watchman.
(C) R33 CULTURE AND THE ARTS, etc. 1902 Sep.12 Fforestfach fife & drum band attend Mynydd Newydd Colliery strike: Demonstration by striking miners held at Cockett.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.16 No sign of settlement in Mond Nickell Works dispute or at Mynydd Newydd.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Sep.17 T Hopkins presided at meeting in support of striking miners at Mynydd Newydd & Pentre pit. Ben Tillett condemns Dr. Mond.
(WM) K22 SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, etc. 1902 Oct.17 John Williams, miners agent, & C.Eden try to bring 2 month strike at Mynydd Newydd & Pentre collieries to an end.
(WM) J21 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1903 Apr.30 Mr Deakin, Parkend & Ben Davies, Miners, Miners' agent, Pentre, investigate dispute at Mynydd Newydd Colliery with Messrs Vivian.
(NLT)
P85

STORY OF SWANSEA D & V

1924

Drawing: Under ground Chapel, Gathering For Monday Morning Prayer Meeting by

T. Bryn Richard.

(WM) J20 MINING AND INDUSTRY, etc 1924 Jul.12 Funeral of Major Thomas Gray, M.E, J.P., Underhill, Port Talbot - Thomas Mort (representing Mynydd Newydd Colliery, Swansea).
(NLT)
P76

STORY OF SWANSEA D & V

1933 June

The colliery was finally abandoned due to flooding.

See Later, Mynydd Newydd Drift.

(NLT)
P84

STORY OF SWANSEA D & V

N/A Drawing: Pit Head Showing The Original Cornish Beam Winding Engine, also mentioned the new horizontal steam engine and engine room.

 

NOTES: AREA COLLUM (etc.)

- DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, ACCIDENTS, MINING ACCIDENTS

- BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL BUILDING, INNS, PUBLIC HOUSES, HOTELS, SOCIAL CLUBS

- MINING AND INDUSTRY, COAL MINING, SWANSEA AND GOWER

- DISASTERS AND ACCIDENTS, ACCIDENTS, RAILWAY ACCIDENTS

- TRANSPORT, ROAD TRANSPORT, TRAMWAYS

- CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

- CRIME AND PUNISHMENT AND POLICE, INQUESTS, INQUIRIES AND TRIBUNALS

- SOCIAL, EMPLOYMENT, STRIKES

- CULTURE AND THE ARTS AND SCIENCE, MUSIC, ORCHESTRAL,BANDS

- THE COLLIERS OF THE SWANSEA AND SWANSEA VALLLEY GENERAL AREAS by Ray Lawrence BSc. 2008

- STORY OF SWANSEA D & V

 

 

*BBC religious broadcast - I have contacted them to find if there is a recording of the event.

www.screenandsound.llgc.org.uk - Recording details below.

Title Bwrw Golwg: O Grombil y Ddaear
Summary

Hanes darllediad gan y BBC yn 1929 o oedfa grefyddol mewn capel dan ddaear ym mhwll glo Mynydd Newydd.

A 1929 service from an underground chapel located in a coal mine near Swansea.

Imprint [] : BBC Radio Cymru, 2009-10-11. Description: 1 MPEG2 Transport Stream (ca. 30 min.). Details: BBC Radio Cymru

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Workers: e.g. 355 /61 = 355 underground and 61 on the surface.

The names of collieries would often change with ownership or re-openings, the coal seam name would sometimes follow suit.

_________________________________________________________________________________________

 

Daniel Jones

Herald of Wales 31st October 1942

 

QUOTE

"The Welsh journal "Diwygiwr" or "Reformer" of 1845, under the title "Revival",

supplies evidence of the first underground prayer meeting held at Mynydd Newydd :
On Monday morning the 18th August, in the Mynydd Newydd Colliery, near Swansea, a Prayer Meeting was held underground. About 100 people were present. Their'agent, Mr. Daniel, was favourably inclined to the the event and promised them every support. They intend to hold the meeting every Monday morning at 6 o'clock. What could they do better? How fine to think of so many men starting the week's work with prayer to God without whose knowledge nothing can go on. It is said that not a swear-word was heard throughout the day. What a great reform !"

 

Norman Lewis Thomas,

The Story of Swansea Districts and Villages Volume II Parts IV-VIII with Abridged Volume I Parts I - III, 1969, Fforestfach page 71

 

SOURCE

(LIE) - National Library of Wales jounal Cyf. 26, rh 1 Haf 1989

Llyfryddiaeth Ieuan Ebblig : a checklist of the publications of Evan Griffiths, Swansea, between 1830 and 1867, page 65.

(NLT) - (The Story of Swansea Districts and Villages Volume II Parts IV-VIII with Abridged Volume I Parts I - III, 1969), Norman Lewis Thomas

Copperopollis Landscapes of the Early Industrial Period in Swansea, Revised 2005, Stephen Hughes, page 307

(SHP) - Swansea History Project, Tramroads and Industrail Railways, page 36

 

REFERENCE:

"Mynydd Newydd "was used to filter the Cambrian index as best as possible with the information available, 28.05.2012.

(C) Cambrian - (WM) Western Mail [web filtered] | Available from the Swansea County Hall

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*A huge thank you to Dave Arnold for all his help with the Collieries*

Thank you to the City & County of Swansea for all your help and support.